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This post is amazing. Thank you for putting your time into this to share a helpful post with everyone.

I'm also glad this is appreciated because I spent way too many crowns doing this as you can see XD

luckguy93 on Oct 3, 2016 wrote:

A Final count on amulet drops from Tartarus, including Amulet of Divine Influence, across my 3 accounts: Post update mass farming.

I'll include Hades gear drops for comparison. It's total count on gear though and the crowns only went back three months so I'm gonna make a guess of about 1/3 of the Hades gear drop numbers don't apply to the new amulet drop rates. For the raw data, the first number is total number of drops in that run, the second just shows that one of those drops was from the fight itself. So it shows the crowns chest drops numbers too.

Balance account:
Total drops raw: 9-1, 8-1, 8-1, 8-1, 7-1, 7-1, 7-1, 7-1, 7-1, 5-1, 7-1, 6-1, 5-1, 5-1, 6-1, 7-1, 6-1, 3-1, 5-1, 3-1, 3-1, 3-1, 2-1, 2-1
Total drops: 136
Total runs: 24 (+5 no chest)
13 Hats
19 Robes
10 Boots
34 Wands
14 Amulets (5 Divine, 2 fire, 1 ice, 1 storm, 1 myth, 1 life, 1 death)

Death, Fire, Storm account:
Total drops raw: 9-1, 8-1, 9-1, 10-1, 9-1, 8-1, 8-1, 8-1, 7-1, 6-1, 9-1, 7-1, 5-1, 6-1, 7-1, 5-1, 5-1, 6-1, 7-1, 8-1, 5-1, 3-1, 3-1, 3-1, 2-1, 2-1
Total drops: 165
Total runs: 26 (+3 no chest)
16 Hats
27 Robes
28 Shoes
47 Wands
8 Amulets (2 Divine (one on fire, one on death), 2 life, 2 death, 1 ice, 1 myth)

Myth, Life, Ice account:
Total Drops raw: 9-1, 8-1, 7-1, 7-1, 7-1, 7-1, 7-1, 7-1, 6-1, 7-1, 9-1, 7-1, 5-1, 5-1, 6-1, 5-1, 3-1, 7-1, 9-1, 9-1, 9-1, 9-1, 9-1, 9-1, 9-1, 9-1, 8-1, 3-1, 2-1
Total drops: 204
Total runs: 29
25 Hats
19 Robes
27 Shoes
44 Wands
12 Amulets (1 Divine (on ice), 3 myth, 2 balance, 2 ice, 2 storm, 1 fire, 1 death)

All amulets but about 3 were after the update, including 1 divine

Final Stats:
Total Hades gear drops minus wands because they're clearly a higher drop rate of all other gear
(estimation for post update, so 2/3): 184x.67 = 123
Total Amulet drops (minus about 3 I had before): 34-3 = 31
Total Divine drops (minus the 1 I had before): 8-1 = 7

Amulet to Hades gear drop ratio estimate: 1 to 4 (25%)
Chance of amulet being Divine: a little better than 1 to 5 (22% to 23%)
Divine to Hades gear drop ratio estimate: 1 to 20 (5.7%)
Divine to any drop ratio estimate: 1 to 70 (1.4%)

Other rough drop numbers:
35% chance of Hades gear drop
9% chance of Amulet drop

Conclusions (based on these numbers):
The chance of Divine dropping when fighting Hades or using the chest (it did drop in battle once, but then also dropped in the chest) has either doubled from 0.6% to 1.2%, or has been increase by a percent to 1.6% - somewhere in that range.

The chance of any amulet dropping has about doubled as well since the update.

You can expect about one Divine to drop for every 20 pieces of Hades gear, which is about a 1/3 chance.

Divine has about a 1/4 chance of being your amulet if you get an amulet drop. Not quite the same as others speculated which was that it was just a flat 1/8 chance in a pool of 8 total amulets.

Also, wands drop 25% of the time.

Hope this helps someone out there.

Greatly Appreciated Bro! :D

Keep Up The Great Work!

Star Edward on Nov 30, 2016 wrote:

Greatly Appreciated Bro! :D

Keep Up The Great Work!

Welcome!

Also, I just realized:

When you look at the raw data, you can see a pretty big disparity in Divine drops across accounts, while the amulet ratio stays about the same.

I'd say that's the luck factor at play. My balance clearly got way more, but I was trying to draw overall conclusions from an average, not one account or the other. But it's pretty clear that, in terms of getting Divine itself, balance was super lucky - even got a Divine from the fight and then another with two chest chances right after said fight. And the Ice/Myth/Life account had the hardest time (1 for about 70 pieces of hades gear). And then the third account falls closer to the mid line at twice as often.

So perhaps a more accurate estimation (to mitigate expectations) might be more like for every 25 or 30 drops of hades gear. But then again, it might just be luck at play because the ratio of amulets in general dropping is still pretty close to my conclusions (if you take out maybe 3 or 4 Divines from the balance account as pure luck).

Then again, this is why I suppose I left this analysis out. The raw data can let others draw their own/extra conclusions as well. Well, that and I ran out of room to type :P

I don't understand why you think the increase in drop rate (if indeed there has been one - the data you've displayed is not nearly enough to draw that conclusion given that there are hundreds of thousands of active players) is a bad thing.

PaigeGoldenspear on Jan 7, 2017 wrote:

I don't understand why you think the increase in drop rate (if indeed there has been one - the data you've displayed is not nearly enough to draw that conclusion given that there are hundreds of thousands of active players) is a bad thing.

And the data that I posted is about as good as it gets until more players post this kind of data in more numbers. Unless KI gave the actual numbers. But we all know that's not going to happen.

So for you to suggest that this still isn't enough? I mean... then this post isn't for you. I would consider this data a significant bridge between all drop numbers everywhere ever since the beginning of time and a sea of anecdotal experiences, true or otherwise.

So if you don't find this information helpful, or think it holds zero merit, then idk what to say to you.

Would you rather have scattered messages of how many runs it took for others to get Divine? Would you rather have nothing?

The raw data is meant to give others about as much objective information and/or hope in whatever it is they are looking for. The data shows drops that include a plethora of drops, including Divine, across three different accounts that vary in luck.

The data here might not be enough to be the textbook case of what a true sample size is, but I challenge you to find numbers more representative of closer to reality.

Thanks for this i am a person who that researches drops and stuff and once i am down with dragon spyre and get to tardarus i am going to do this

Adam